Talk:Grox

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[edit] Homeworld

In my game the Grox's Homeworld (The planet from where you receive Grox Bribe messages and Alliance Offerings) is the Agavicea planet, in the Cephylea system. And in yours? Poeringu 12:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember the star's name, but the planet was called "Mimas" in my game. OluapPlayer 12:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Mine is Planet Leynas in the Anduras system. 159.250.29.4 12:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Mine was a planet in the Jular System.HerbisoarEmpire 20:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

I used the Staff of Life on the Grox homeworld! Wormulon 22:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Once Deman I. Imperios 20:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

In my game, the star is called "Dozancyce", but the Grox occupy two planets in mine- "Schadis" and "Melion" 94michael731 15:35 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Im almost sure is star Esperosa, planet Chadajas-2, but I`m not sure. --Fedelede 18:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Lets just close this, because it looks like The Grox homeworld has a random name, just like most planets and stars in the game. robostuart@gmail.com 23:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

i dont think you know how to see if it is the homeworld the way you se it is that on colonys there is a ring around them on the galactic map but if it is the homewolrd then there is a . on it. in my game it is acaodar in the actronian system just next to the center of the galaxy

Yea, I forgot that. It is not. Thanks for clearing that up (: --Fedelede 22:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

dO THE GROX HOMEWORLDS HAVE THE RED EXCLAMATION POINTS ABOVE THEM? THEN IF SO, I FORGOT THE SYSTEM AND PLANET NAME BUT IN MY GAME IT HAS TWO CITIES!!! EXPLANATION ANYONE? Brambleclaw 22:41, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The grox have so many colonies they forgot to defend the homeworld.

i have an idea. the developers probably made it so that it looks like The Grox took over other species homeworlds so that those were once other homeworlds but they were taken over. does that make sense to you? Taikwin.'

In my game the Grox Homeworld is called Megim. I conquered it, and now it's my base of operation for Grox extermination.--Liquid Ink 09:46, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, the grox have no homeworld, or at least not in the spore galaxy, and I don't think they naturally thrive on T0 planets, but instead Steve (who I think is in charge of intergalactic commerce) fitted thier empire whith the technology to help them survive in the other galaxy. Also, the grox have only attacked two of my colonies, you see, the closer a planet is to an empire, the more likeley it is to be attacked by it. Thankfully I can always rescue it because of an erily convinient wormhole, most of the time, my uber turret takes care of everything for me.--Miles 03:49, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the above is true. Nothing in game supports these claims. (Besides the grox attacking you) Sporeblade 13:16, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The point of the Grox

An obstacle for the player
All good space adventures need an evil species
Spore is all about placing life in a lifeless galaxy, the grox are there to destroy it
They are there to prevent the player from getting to the Galactic core

Anymore ideas ? Wormulon 10:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

To provide the ultimate challenge for both Militaristic or Diplomatic players? Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs

They are just there to give the stubborn players a goal in the game. in my opinion.DanceWithTheDevil 01:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

To provide players a challgenge, and to hide a great reward, kinda like 'bosses' in other video games. Gyromite 05:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

They seem to oppose life, and want to destroy empires and provide an obstacle to the Galactic Core.They seem to attack and raid for the fun of it. attacking T2 and t3 planets they cant colonize....maybe they are the "bad guys"HerbisoarEmpire 00:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

To protect the Galaxy, mainly Center from impostor from other races. Imperios 20:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

To be a major plot point, possibly to use in other games, or just to make us speculate pointlessly. I love speculating pointlessly! It's so fun! --Liquid Ink 05:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the Grox were designed by whatever higher power made the Staff of Life, as a defense or some kind of 'test' to see if a person was worthy of recieving the Staff. Surpassing the Grox is the ultimate proof that you are worhy and deservant of the Staf.. FNRKK 23:17, September 1, 2009 (UTC) to be the ultimate boss

Exactly, I think that they were posted as a gaurd Empire and transported there from steve's end of the Galactic core. I think they got carried away though. The reason behind thier weaponry may be thier origin from another galaxy.

[edit] Grox. Evil or not?

Most of people think that grox are evil. They are not, as i think. They DO NOT attack you at first sight, if they were evil, they will be attacking empires just for fun. The other empires that attacked by grox simply attacked them. They simply very territorial, and do not trust strangers. How YOU think? Imperios 20:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the Grox take on that evil to protect the core, because they live on T0 planets thus they a scared of every race destroying them with their own Staff of Life. They destroyed my home planet Tarcus THEY ARE EVIL!!!!!!!. Wormulon 20:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

You attacked them if they do. If you give them 10000§, they are not attack you.

In a different game I allied with them but every other empire claimed war. Either way it is the Grox or the rest of the galaxy. Wormulon 21:31, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

But if you are neutral with them? Imperios 12:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC) (:) Nothing. 86.169.38.104 19:41, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

The first time I met them they destroyed my ship before I could attack. Once you meet them, attack them or not they will still raid and destroy your colonies. And thay will still shoot at your ship even if you are friends with them. Wormulon 13:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually in all my games i'm never attacked by the Grox, you'll get a message from one of your allies early in space stage asking to help defend against a Grox attack, if you attack them then they'll continually raid your colonies, but if you just show up at the allies planet and let the Grox leave without attacking them you'll be fine.^Ҵїҫэӌ Ҭӈә _{Ѕҥїʐʐɻє} 19:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I was at war with them right when I met them! When I opened the SETI and said "call off your fighter before I blast it into pieces!" they immediatley declared war! They are EVIL User:Sporefan102

Wow. You told them and that you would blow up one of their ships and they declared war on you? Wierd. 216.137.232.227 04:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

You were crazy enough to do that? You should always do the top one, because who could stand a chance against an empire with 2400 colonies? Sporefan102, you should not get into open war with them unless you are the omnipotent. Try again on your next game, because when you go to war with them, you can't go back out of it. robostuart@gmail.com 23:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The Grox, I don't think they are evil. They won't attack your colonies unless you annoy them. My guess is that they may have had some trouble with the early empires at the center of the galaxy, causing them to distrust everyone. In their defense, they may have conquered those empires and that could have given them a bad reputation. So everyone decides to hate THEM. So maybe they are desperate for allies but simply do not trust anyone. On one of my saved games, I will get them allied, on one of them. Preferably one I use cheats for...71.120.42.89 05:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Dullstar

Perhaps the Grox are not really evil, but misunderstood, perhaps they are hiding something? If every species in the galaxy reaches the Galactic Core, the Grox become weak because they live on T0 planets. Wormulon 10:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I think they are evil. In the diplomatic window, if you choose to know more about them, they will treat you very bad, saying how great they are and how disgusting they think our species is. Also, even if you aren't at war with them, they will attack you with all they got. They like to put fear in other empires, and attack them merciless. If that's not evil, make Maxis change the Dance With The Devil badge's description. OluapPlayer 14:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Maxis created the Grox to be evil, Star Treck has its Borg, Star Wars has its Sith and Spore has its Grox. Wormulon 15:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe that the Grox are not evil. On the contrary, they are afraid of an Empire destroying them. They are only so distrusting and guard the galactic core because they are horribly afraid of someone destroying them with the Staff of Life. Falcoz 05:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Well maybe the Grox are just ruled by a evil ruler but the normal grox are good.Jamesrules90 15:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I always thought the Grox were created by someone or something to protect the Staff of Life. I mean making such a powerful tool easy to reach would be, frankly, stupid. Roxasora69 16:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

They are absolutely not evil. They are robots, bent on what they were "programmed" to do. However, their organic part may not be able to take over, or they just are made to be destroying machines, without any thought process, like a rock.

70.189.247.117 02:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I thought that they made the implants bacause they wee too weak to survive normally. 72.35.124.149 03:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

A computer isn't good or evil. It simply does what it is told. -The Elite Mjs961 20:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

No their are evil (its story time yayz :p) In the furture people evole to space but everything was polluted (EArth i mean) so they started colonizing places. at that time everyone in the galaxy wuved eachother and OF COURSE humans ruin it! they met the aleins andThe created The books of chance,life,force etc. and the archtypes so then they archtypes disagred with eachothers philosophys and war broke alliences where lost planets destroyed. meanwhile humans made to the center of the galaxy where they met the species that would become the grox at the time they had no mech parts so they created a alleince and lived happily ever after....buuut that would be to easy humans poulloted and dropped to T-0 the soon to be grox creatures so they like anyone would be where ticked so the humans built life support sytems for them cant rember its name but the initels were G.R.0 but the prototypes kept failing G.R.o-121 etc. no one could rember the last model so they it was known as G.R.0-X (Grox) at the time the humans discovered the galatic core contained strange properties that could create life! thus leading to the staff of life the humans wanted to use it to fix the mistake they had made with the polluted planets but the grox who where now accustumed to their mecha half had relized how weak they were when they were fully organic and then grew to think of all life as so and grew to hate it when they learned of the staff of life a tool that could create life thing got veeeeeeery messy and they locked the staff with its remaining 42 charges in the galatic core.....Though i cant remeber why they didnt just blow it OO wait the HUMANS built steve and had him hide in the galatic core sorry=)-purpill 4/19/09

The little buggers are obviously bitter about something, probobly with Spode. My theory is thay wher once the Spode's favored race, but doupt began to spred throughout the empire. Soon hardly any of the Grox beleaved in the ways of Spode. The daeity was angered and changed them in to 'toxic' creatures, makeing many of them sufocate and die due to the air on thair planets. Not only that but he/she/it/they transformed the Grox's bodies in to thair current state (cause if you see there stats in there pure, un-cyborg formes, thay are realy weak, thay could not have advanced past creature stage like that) and left thair empire to crumble. The Grox being adaptable (unfortunetly, for us and our creations) replaced thair entire right halves with mechean inplants restoring, to a degree, ther former phisical prowess. Now, seviral thousand years since thair fall from grace, thay are bitter towords all life, from the time thay are born (hatched???) to the time thay die, thay look for little more than death, mostly to spite thair ex-god. Ta-dah Thats my theory^^ feel free to point out holes in my logic.

A computer can be TOLD to be evil, can it not? But who's telling them to be evil?Liquid Ink 14 August 2009

Actually, the Grox aren't robots, they are cyborgs. Tey may have some individual thought, which would make them evil. --Liquid Ink 05:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

THEY ARE PURE EVIL. IN the tribal stage, when I had 12 people, they wiped out half my tribe, and then I died because Lavendar village attacked me. Has anybody had the grox lazer you? I think it is a glitch. Nanospore 16:42, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well evil is a subjective concept, so I don't think we'll ever agree on if they are evil. But what we can agree on is that they are xenophobic, territorial, have little interest in diplomacy, and have a tremendous sense of superiority. We also know they will attack other species with little or no provocation, and they have apparently caused the extinction of sentient species in the past. As far as we can tell, these things are considered culturally acceptable by them (though we never speak with their ordinary people, only leaders... the everyday people could disagree but be oppressed by their rulers), so they would not see them as evil, but it's hard to sympathize with someone trying to kill your species. If you believe that evil lies in one's actions... yes, they're evil. ComradeJim270 01:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

A friend and I came up with the theory that they got tired of all those distress calls from their useless whiny neighbors, and just snapped. There won't be any more of those if everyone's DEAD. (Tell me you haven't thought about it, when one of your "allies" rings you up for the tenth time in as many minutes, asking you to drop everything and rush over to put down some sick animals or open a jar for them or whatever.) --StClair 04:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the Grox can only achieve true happiness through open combat and being a grouch, I mean, a player coud never achieve the hatred that the grox earned without forging an allience, but you could destroy any empire you want, the player's ship is the farari of the galaxy whith the most advanced weaponry ever; you could kill spode if you wanted. What I'm saying is, they aren't evil, they're just impossible to get along whith.

[edit] Grox = Fox?

Grox look little like foxes. Could the name Grox come from Fox, not borg? --Mikto 9:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Unlikely, as The Grox speak borg quotes. - OmniSpore101

Maybe they got the "Ox" part at the end from "Fox", while kept Grob's beginning. --UBFunkaneer 03:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)UBFunkaneer

I think the Grox look like evil rabbits. Wormulon 13:13, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Evil red robotic rabbits. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

If you combine 'Spore' and 'God' then add an e at the end, record it, then play it backwards, it says 'Grox' Holomanga 14:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC).

[edit] Grox history

What's up with the history section, it's in the wrong size, bolded and I'm pretty sure everything in it is unfounded - Dark Noo Noo 09:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed.

Ose ^t/_c 10:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Government

The Grox may be an Autocracy.--Liquid Ink 08:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

And that means...?--GroxJB1000 1:38PM, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The link is rather self explanatory. If you want an answer, you should probably follow the link. Probably should have done that in the first place. morgoth ^t/_C 20:33, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as how the Grox are often compared with the Borg, I personally don't see it as unreasonable that they don't have a government per se, but instead they're all linked together as a hive mind, perhaps coordinated by a network of computers operated by a select few individuals. ChrisGJ777 10:57, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I always thought of the Grox as more like the Cybermen from Doctor Who.--Liquid Ink 05:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dronox and Insectrox Taxonomy

Should we give the Dronox and Isectrox their own Taxonomy?--Liquid Ink 23:09, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I think its a good idea. --The Valader 17:14, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why not.

Ose ^t/_c 17:19, November 10, 2009 (UTC)